New From KMG

benclare · Post by **benclare** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:28 pm

Aussie Showmen are good at choosing thrill rides that remain popular for years and are easy to transport. I wouldn't be surprised to see this new machine in Oz in the next few years if it does well in Europe; perhaps a Showman over there may sell one to an Australian operator like Space Roller; a very successful transaction for all involved I'd say!

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:30 pm

I know of a few secrets

Paulie123 · Post by **Paulie123** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:33 pm

Oh spill!

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:14 pm

Nope, can't

Paulie123 · Post by **Paulie123** » Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:16 pm

dang. tell me one thing, am i gunna be happy with this 'secret'

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:06 pm

mmk · Post by **mmk** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:27 pm

I was speaking to an operator the other day and they mentioned many of the new/2nd hand thrill rides in Australia are not actually 'owned' by the operator, merely a lease agreement between the operator and the broker where they pay a monthly fee for use of the ride until it has covered the cost.

i had never heard of such a thing as most of WA's showmen own their rides outright.

apparently its popular in the eastern states. does anyone know more about these 'leasing' arrangements?

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:52 pm

OMG *Chains myself to Space Roller*

CoinKing · Post by **CoinKing** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:07 pm

mmk wrote:I was speaking to an operator the other day and they mentioned many of the new/2nd hand thrill rides in Australia are not actually 'owned' by the operator, merely a lease agreement between the operator and the broker where they pay a monthly fee for use of the ride until it has covered the cost.

i had never heard of such a thing as most of WA's showmen own their rides outright.

apparently its popular in the eastern states. does anyone know more about these 'leasing' arrangements?

lease?
Loan?

Companys do have to take out loans to buy rides, trucks , generators.

mmk · Post by **mmk** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:31 pm

Clay wrote: lease?
Loan?

Companys do have to take out loans to buy rides, trucks , generators.

yeah loans through the bank or credit institutions you mean. But im talking about actual 'Ride Brokers' that purchase the ride, then rent it to an operator who maintains it and does the show runs with it. I know of two rides from the eastern states that are over at the moment that are under than arrangement but i dont think its my place to say what rides.

i just thought it was interesting that the actual showmen don't actually 'own' the ride.

Vee · Post by **Vee** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:02 pm

Doesn't really surprise me, it would take a while to make back 1.5 million.

Edit: 1.5 million profit

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:10 pm

Yes, they are alot of money some of the rides

CoinKing · Post by **CoinKing** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:07 pm

mmk wrote:
Clay wrote: lease?
Loan?

Companys do have to take out loans to buy rides, trucks , generators.
yeah loans through the bank or credit institutions you mean. But im talking about actual 'Ride Brokers' that purchase the ride, then rent it to an operator who maintains it and does the show runs with it. I know of two rides from the eastern states that are over at the moment that are under than arrangement but i dont think its my place to say what rides.

i just thought it was interesting that the actual showmen don't actually 'own' the ride.

yeah could be true

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:43 pm

*Remains Clinging to Space Roller and attaches himself to SkyWalker* MINE! I don't actually know if these are the rides but they aint going anywhere if they indeed are. I will make sure of it

HUSSRAINBOW · Post by **HUSSRAINBOW** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:08 pm

Wasn't that the case with MATTERHORN?
Wittingslow didn't actually own it, they used to run it at the shows, and down at Rye .... I always remember the truck that towed it saying.. MATTERHORN AMUSEMENTS, weird... haha

Rainbow was co-owned for a bit, Garry was running it in Sydney in 2002 for Wittingslow, and then they took care of both Rainbow and Ranger down in Melbourne, no idea what the case for Ekka and Adelaide were.

Paulie123 · Post by **Paulie123** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:14 pm

whats the reason rainbow doesnt do more shows?

ozshowkid · Post by **ozshowkid** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:18 pm

Way off the grid with this one, all the eastern state opperators do get loans to buy there rides, a ride broker may have simply did the deal for the Aussie opperator. Therefore the broker is entitled a fee which may be paid at a later date. But I have not heard of any rides over here that are leased from Brokers.

Cheers OZshowkid

CoinKing · Post by **CoinKing** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:47 pm

ozshowkid wrote:Way off the grid with this one, all the eastern state opperators do get loans to buy there rides, a ride broker may have simply did the deal for the Aussie opperator. Therefore the broker is entitled a fee which may be paid at a later date. But I have not heard of any rides over here that are leased from Brokers.

Cheers OZshowkid

yeah this is the truth, someones pulling your leg mmk

HUSSRAINBOW · Post by **HUSSRAINBOW** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:03 pm

I really have no idea as to why Rainbow doesn't at least to Moomba and the Melbourne Show, O'Neills always do very well with their rides at moomba, and wave swinger and kiddie rides in Melbourne... it's a real shame

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:25 pm

*Releases my grip from SkyWalker and Space Roller* Phew...

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:19 am

Lol Hurri, yeh, It is ridiculous Garry doesn't take Ranger and rainbow anywhere else. They are both good rides

Hurricane · Post by **Hurricane** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:59 pm

Yeah, I'd love to give them both a whirl... Apparently the gears are really loud on Ranger and I love that sound... The hangover has a pretty loud gear box too... Shockwave... Well it's quite and purdy

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:03 pm

Yeh, ranger sounds awesome, hangover is as loud as the OFA Skymaster which is a pile of sh**. Yeh, Shockwave is very quite

princess · Post by **princess** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:49 pm

quote]Went on 3 times. The first 2 goes we went over the top 4 times and then that was it. But then gave us a longer go the third and that was lots of fun. And the motor sounded just like oneills ranger, Was very loud. But i luv the sound of the motors screaming. Good ride, needed a cleanup and a new paintjob.

mmmm so it is not a good ride Topgunner?

Top Gunner14 · Post by **Top Gunner14** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:26 pm

Yep, thats what I'm saying but I'll be seeing it this weekend, I'll see if its been refubished and repainted